Curse

EmperorTippy · Jun 20, 2005, 05:37 AM // 05:37

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Originally Posted by Creston

I wish there was a voting system in this game. If a player gets 25 votes that say "*sshole" from other players, he gets banned to the *sshole district, where he can only play with the other retards. God, that would clean this game up right quick.

Creston

Credit for the idea goes to Creston and this quote is from a different thread he posted on.

Now my improvement to this idea. Make the perrson stay in the *sshole district for 1 week then they can come back to the regular districts but they now need 5 less votes to be sent back (25 then 20 the 15...).

The votes have to be by different accounts so you cant have somone get mad and vote 25 times to kick someone to the *sshole district.

If a player manages to get sent to the district 6 times (when it would require 0 votes to be sent back) they are penalized all the gold they have on the account and cant come back for 2 weeks.

After a person has been sent to the district for every week they go after being reales with no votes to send them back they move up to the next vote requirment (20 to 25...).

What do you think about this idea?

Jwh6913 · Jun 20, 2005, 05:41 AM // 05:41

won't work anet isn't gonna alienate people and it's extremely abusable- hjave 25 friends on your list and ask them all to send them to the 'baddie' district bang there he goes, and redo everytime then all gold is gone. even if tha tperson doesn't deserve it. also the baddies and their friends can do it to YOU for revenge! OR for no good reason at all.

EmperorTippy · Jun 20, 2005, 05:46 AM // 05:46

Then increase the number to say 50 and make it so that no more than 10 can be from the same guild or on eachothers friends lists. To stop the abuse ANet could also make it so that once you vote to send someone their its a permanent vote> I'm sorry my orginal post should say 20 new people 15 new people etc.

BTW I never said that ANEt was going to do this, and check your grammar and spelling.

Navaros · Jun 20, 2005, 05:51 AM // 05:51

horrible idea. because often if a player is the very best player on the team who criticsizes his own team mates for dying due to sheer idiocy on their own part; then those sucky players will scapegoat the good player for their own horrible playing

hence, any type of "voting" system in this game would be illegitimate and morally wrong. no justice would be done with that. only the good players would be penalized.

ManadartheHealer · Jun 20, 2005, 06:06 AM // 06:06

I don't think this would work. If someone is being a big enough "@$$hole" in the worst way, then they can get banned instead of going to some district. If it isn't a bannable offense, either switch districts or stay away from the offending person

Madjik · Jun 20, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09

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Originally Posted by Navaros

horrible idea. because often if a player is the very best player on the team who criticsizes his own team mates for dying due to sheer idiocy on their own part; then those sucky players will scapegoat the good player for their own horrible playing

hence, any type of "voting" system in this game would be illegitimate and morally wrong. no justice would be done with that. only the good players would be penalized.

agreed navaros. I dont belive this "Survivor" technique (voting someone off the island or in this case, to a diffrent district) is capable of solving anything in any way, and will only serve to tear apart the community. Even increasing the number of votes required wouldnt work, since a guild can have up to 100 people. It would only take a quick "Hey, lets throw this guy into the **shole district" from the leader of such a guild on the guild channel to create an exploitable situation.

There are much better ways to deal with idiots, such as putting them on your ignore list or staying away from them all together.

EmperorTippy · Jun 20, 2005, 06:16 AM // 06:16

I'm talking about the people who quit in the middle of matches, go AFK in FoW or UW, spam the local chat with trade requests continusly, aggro everything in sitght for no reason and in general do the things that everyone complains about on these forums.

This wasn't an idea I came up with it was something brought up by another that I mearly attempted to refine because it seemed like it had potential.

To what Navaros said i agree with you but I am tlking about a place for people who are the sheer idiots who dont learn and mess up the gaming experiance for the rest of us, and no I am not sure how to stop the scapegoating that would occur.

EmperorTippy · Jun 20, 2005, 06:20 AM // 06:20

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Originally Posted by Madjik

Even increasing the number of votes required wouldnt work, since a guild can have up to 100 people. It would only take a quick "Hey, lets throw this guy into the **shole district" from the leader of such a guild on the guild channel to create an exploitable situation.

There are much better ways to deal with idiots, such as putting them on your ignore list or staying away from them all together.

If you read my second post I said allow no more than ten of the votes to be from people in the same guild or from people on eachothers friends list.

My guild has a policy that whenever anyone in the guild finds an @$$hole player we post their IGN on our website and we all add them to our ingore list.

MaglorD · Jun 20, 2005, 06:27 AM // 06:27

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Originally Posted by Navaros

horrible idea. because often if a player is the very best player on the team who criticsizes his own team mates for dying due to sheer idiocy on their own part; then those sucky players will scapegoat the good player for their own horrible playing

hence, any type of "voting" system in this game would be illegitimate and morally wrong. no justice would be done with that. only the good players would be penalized.

I find henchies the most reliable, even though they're lower level and do stupid things sometimes like stand in the poisonous swamps. Many times, it was either waste time waiting for a good PUG to do a mission or do them with henchies.

OTOH, there will always be A-holes who think they know everything and berate everyone in the team. I was in this PUG to do the frostgate mission where a level 20 monk was helping out. When someone did not skip the video clip, he threatened to leave and even tried to find out who didn't skip...I mean how childish can he get? While doing the bonus part, everyone died except me and him...

Another mission(Gates of Kryta), this mad female warrior kept telling everyone to pick up all items and drop them if they didn't want them so she could have them. Obviously she never considered, some ppl did not pick them up because they had no space in their inventory. Eventually, the mission ended in failure because Hablion died. Someone went into the swamp too early...and she scolded everyone....what a bitch!!! I gave up and did it with henchies...after all this was my 6th character...and last profession.

EmperorTippy · Jun 20, 2005, 06:30 AM // 06:30

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Originally Posted by MaglorD

I find henchies the most reliable, even though they're lower level and do stupid things sometimes like stand in the poisonous swamps. Many times, it was either waste time waiting for a good PUG to do a mission or do them with henchies.

OTOH, there will always be A-holes who think they know everything and berate everyone in the team. I was in this PUG to do the frostgate mission where a level 20 monk was helping out. When someone did not skip the video clip, he threatened to leave and even tried to find out who didn't skip...I mean how childish can he get? While doing the bonus part, everyone died except me and him...

Another mission(Gates of Kryta), this mad female warrior kept telling everyone to pick up all items and drop them if they didn't want them so she could have them. Obviously she never considered, some ppl did not pick them up because they had no space in their inventory. Eventually, the mission ended in failure because Hablion died. Someone went into the swamp too early...and she scolded everyone....what a bitch!!! I gave up and did it with henchies...after all this was my 6th character...and last profession.

Now imagin both of those players on the same team. Maybe they will learn to be better members of the community or they will get along with eachother and start teamng up so the rest of us don't have to deal with them.

Madjik · Jun 20, 2005, 06:31 AM // 06:31

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Originally Posted by EmperorTippy

If you read my second post I said allow no more than ten of the votes to be from people in the same guild or from people on eachothers friends list.

My guild has a policy that whenever anyone in the guild finds an @$$hole player we post their IGN on our website and we all add them to our ingore list.

I do indeed see that now, where I did not before.

I still however, stand by the rest of my statement. There are far better ways to deal with such people, exiling them to thier own area solves nothing and makes them feel unwanted.

Some of before mentioned idiots are mearly newbs, people who will eventually have enough knowledge to play the game effectively and maybe even come up with a combination of skills you never would have thought of. Todays idiot could be tomarrows top PvP contender....you just dont know.

My suggestion remains the same. If you find an idiot, simply put them on your ignore list and avoid them.

EmperorTippy · Jun 20, 2005, 06:35 AM // 06:35

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Originally Posted by Madjik

I do indeed see that now, where I did not before.

I still however, stand by the rest of my statement. There are far better ways to deal with such people, exiling them to thier own area solves nothing and makes them feel unwanted.

Some of before mentioned idiots are mearly newbs, people who will eventually have enough knowledge to play the game effectively and maybe even come up with a combination of skills you never would have thought of. Todays idiot could be tomarrows top PvP contender....you just dont know.

My suggestion remains the same. If you find an idiot, simply put them on your ignore list and avoid them.

I agree with your idea wholehartedly and I differenchiate between newbs and the accesended @$$holes who are on Thunderhead Keep and don't no what the aggro circle is.

Maybe make it so that people can only be sent to the @$$hole district after they have passed LA on atleast 1 character.

Jwh6913 · Jun 20, 2005, 06:37 AM // 06:37

the idea is horrible from all sides. deal with it. in the real world we can't send *ssholes to a different district. Deal with them and move on.

Also, Give up on this, anet isn't gonna implement this. Try to think of it from the Dev's viewpoint. unecessary punishment isn't fun. let Anet take care of the punishment and focus on your own fun.

EmperorTippy · Jun 20, 2005, 06:41 AM // 06:41

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Originally Posted by Jwh6913

the idea is horrible from all sides. deal with it. in the real world we can't send *ssholes to a different district. Deal with them and move on.

Also, Give up on this, anet isn't gonna implement this. Try to think of it from the Dev's viewpoint. unecessary punishment isn't fun. let Anet take care of the punishment and focus on your own fun.

I never said that you could do this to people in the real world. I paid my $50 just like all the others to play this game and have an enjoyable experiance, but these @$$holes are taking away from that enjoyment and the enjoyment of others. So put all the people who do this together and see what happenes. If it didn't work ANet could always go back to the way it is now with no problems.

DarrenJasper · Jun 20, 2005, 06:41 AM // 06:41

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Originally Posted by EmperorTippy

I agree with your idea wholehartedly and I differenchiate between newbs and the accesended @$$holes who are on Thunderhead Keep and don't no what the aggro circle is.

Maybe make it so that people can only be sent to the @$$hole district after they have passed LA on atleast 1 character.

So, being uninformed, even at a late stage, makes you an asshole?

This is a perfect example of why this system wouldn't work. I could care less if people quit out of my group - why should they stay if they're not having fun? - but some people seem to treat it like the eighth deadly sin. Because opinions on everything differ so radically, you would probably end up getting banished to limbo for someone else's pet peeve.

Jwh6913 · Jun 20, 2005, 06:45 AM // 06:45

one thing I would do if your idea were implented on the forums- I'd send you to the *sshole forums just cuz I want to. Get it?

stupidity is universal, and intelligence is finite. get used to that idea.

EmperorTippy · Jun 20, 2005, 06:50 AM // 06:50

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Originally Posted by DarrenJasper

So, being uninformed, even at a late stage, makes you an asshole?

This is a perfect example of why this system wouldn't work. I could care less if people quit out of my group - why should they stay if they're not having fun? - but some people seem to treat it like the eighth deadly sin. Because opinions on everything differ so radically, you would probably end up getting banished to limbo for someone else's pet peeve.

Probabily true and quitting realy only annoys me when they do it right after a skill capture or right before that one point were you really need everybody.

And I never said that being uniformed made you an asshole. Imagine it like this in the real world.

A 5 year old takes a toy out of a store. What happens when hes caught? Hes told not to do it again and nothing reallt happens, but you have a 16 year old walk out of the store with a toy and he is charged with shoplifting even if he never knew that this was wrong.

Yes you might get some honest to god people caught but be realalistic how hard would it be for you to convince 50 people that you are an @$$hole and deserve to be sent to this district if you were just an uniformed person who made an honest mistake.

aja · Jun 20, 2005, 06:51 AM // 06:51

hurray for the ignore list

DarrenJasper · Jun 20, 2005, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by EmperorTippy

Probabily true and quitting realy only annoys me when they do it right after a skill capture or right before that one point were you really need everybody.

And I never said that being uniformed made you an asshole. Imagine it like this in the real world.

A 5 year old takes a toy out of a store. What happens when hes caught? Hes told not to do it again and nothing reallt happens, but you have a 16 year old walk out of the store with a toy and he is charged with shoplifting even if he never knew that this was wrong.

Yes you might get some honest to god people caught but be realalistic how hard would it be for you to convince 50 people that you are an @$$hole and deserve to be sent to this district if you were just an uniformed person who made an honest mistake.

When you said "the accesended @$$holes who are on Thunderhead Keep and don't no what the aggro circle is" I made that connection. Was I wrong to?

And honestly it depends on the people, which was my original point. Chances are, no matter what kind of player you are, someone, somewhere, is going to take an issue with it. Even if it's only one person in 100, how many people are there in GW? Thousands, which means that whoever you may be, whatever your behavior may be like, there are at least 50 people out there right now who would black-mark you in a rage and feel right about it afterwards (to say nothing of those who would do it wrongly and knowingly, of which there are probably more).

My point is, who gets to decide what constitutes "asshole" behavior? You mentioned earlier that "these @$$holes are taking away from that enjoyment and the enjoyment of others" but that's only your opinion. Like I said, I could care less about people quitting from groups while you take issue. Which one of us is right, when you consider that quitters and non-quitters have both paid $50 to play this game in the non-asshole districts? Unless they make it a rule that you have to stay with a group after you join no matter what kind of dumbasses you ended up with, neither of us.

So as much as you'd like to just throw in a big cure-all solution to the problem of unsavory individuals in the community and eat the losses when it comes to innocents falling victim, I'm telling you to curb that impulse. Social problems don't go away that easy, which explains why so many exist in the world today. When you become a victim of your own flavor of asshole behavior, just grit your teeth and bear it like the rest of us. The sooner you learn to put up with it, the better off you'll be.

Jwh6913 · Jun 20, 2005, 07:04 AM // 07:04

Amen Darren jasper!

just give it up tippy.

in addeum to his post, your behavior on this topic tends to make me think you are one yourself. there's infinite diversity in infinite combinations. some people may be absolute geniuses at playing as a elementalist, but suck at playing a monk, etc, etc just bear it and just play. You could always quit and play a Fps- I -think- Hexen is the name of it, It is or used to be a swords/sorcery fps way back in early 90's